How To Create A Better Global Society With Two Volunteers For Allatra – Episode 096

LFL 96 | A Better Global Society


How can we do better for each other? In this episode, Olga Kovtun and Olga Schmidt, volunteers from ALLATRA International Public Movement, join Patrick Veroneau as they talk about making an impact globally by creating a better global creative society. Get to know their organization and the opportunity its movement presents that aligns with what the global environment needs. They discuss global consumerism and what it actually takes to do more and help your society. With a global reach having volunteers from all over the world, learn how their members create an impact to affect global change, and figure out how people want to live in the future. Tune in and know how you can get involved in the movement.

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How To Create A Better Global Society With Two Volunteers For Allatra

My focus is on interviewing others, as well as providing research that demonstrates that there is a better way to lead for all of us when we focus on the behaviors that inspire, empower, and compel others to want to go where we’re asking them to go. My guests are both named Olga. They are part of a global volunteer movement called Allatra TV that focuses on creating a creative society. I believe never has that been more important than now globally in terms of figuring out how we can do better for each other? That’s what we’re going to explore on this episode. Let’s get into it.

Thank you so much, Olga and Olga, for both being on the show. We had an opportunity to get introduced through Zoom and I was able to be on your show. I loved the concept of what you were doing in terms of trying to make an impact globally. In the environment that we’re in right now, there is such an opportunity for what you two have put out there. I was hoping we could talk about how did you come up with this concept? What’s your background? What was that moment that you thought, “We’re going to do a live television show globally on this?”

Thank you so much for having us on your show. We do appreciate it, Patrick. First, I’d like to talk a little bit about Allatra International Public Movement. It is a movement that was established in 2011 on the basis of Lagoda International Public Organization. Participants of the movement are implementing the vast majority of global projects all over the world. It is an organization that is outside of politics and religion. Meaning we have volunteers from all over the world of any social status, age, race, any political affiliation or religious affiliation. On May 11th of 2019, we had a conference that was called Society: The Last Chance. People from all over the world joined in large conference halls. They all got together. I would say there were thousands of people. We had over 140 countries joining on Zoom video. They all got together to discuss the problems that are going on in the world. We see that there are two major things that are happening.

First, we see the doomsday clock. It’s already on showing that civilization is very close to self-destruction. Also, we talked about the climatic changes that are going on in the world. The conference concluded that the central problem of modern mankind is the consumer format of society. The only way out of the situation is to change the format of the consumer format of the vector of society to a creative one. Here we came up with this project that’s called Creative Society. The first thing that we would have to do is we thought about, “How are we going to do this? Do people want the change?” Here we had thousands of people joining us on this global conference, but maybe other people don’t see a need in the change. That is why we started doing social surveys all over the world to see how other people envision the society of the future. That is how we came up with the project Creative Society. That is why now we do Zoom calls and interviews. Unfortunately, we cannot leave the house so we cannot do person to person interviews.

For me, my background is in graphic design marketing and web design. This is what I do. This is my profession, but at the end of the day, I always felt like there was something more that I can do. There’s something more out there that I should be doing. I knew that the world we were living in, it didn’t seem like anyone was happy. It didn’t seem like we can stop the war. It didn’t seem like the people can control anything. I always questioned like, “Why is this so?” The world is like you’ve got the get married, build a house, plant a tree, have kids, and then what? Who sold us this image that this is our life? Who told us that this is what you’re supposed to be? We’re realizing that people that went through all the steps are still unhappy or don’t have time to even enjoy retirement, don’t even have health to travel, or don’t even have anything in place. It made me question things like, “What is going on here? Why are we stuck in this consumerism?” We consume people, products, and ideas. What is in it for me?

When you solve a problem locally, it helps. Click To Tweet

I understood that when I do something and I don’t expect anything in return, it benefits me. It helps me to grow and to develop personally and to say, “I’m not afraid to talk to people anymore because this is important.” People are not afraid to talk to us about any other horrible subjects and negative news, but why are we sitting back and not talking about positive things? What can we do as a society? It is time right now to unite instead of separate. For me, that was the journey that I took and that we are doing it as volunteers. We have volunteers from 140 different countries or 80 different countries. We are also on different languages. We are all on different platforms. We all communicate somehow, but we are all united. We all do those type of projects that internally make every single person happy.

I love that it’s called a movement because that has so much power to it. When you think of it, it’s a movement. It’s funny because of leadership that way or how leadership needs to change. It directly is correlated with what you’re doing because one of the quotes that I will often use in leadership, if your actions inspire somebody to do more, learn more, dream more or become more, you’re a leader. To me, that’s the movement. It’s our actions inspiring others to do more. You guys both had this in 2011. This is not a new concept that you were thinking of, even in 2019, having this global conference. You were thinking about this before we were in this crisis that we’re in right now. What are you seeing now? Are you seeing a difference in terms of either more people being interested in what you’re putting out there?

Yes, definitely. When this all started, people did not see changes. They did not see problems in the consumer society we were living in. They did not see the problems in the climate back then, but now more people have a little more time to stop and think, “I’m living like a hamster in a hamster wheel. I see that there are problems going on outside. I look outside my window and it’s snowing. I can see that there’s a lot more global changes happening in the world.” A lot more people are stopping and thinking, “How do I want to live? How do I want the society to be?” We see a response from so many people all over the world that also have the same goal. They also want to do something. They want to live in a better world. They want to live in a better society. It’s funny that you said that from 2011 until now, we see so much change. A lot more people are realizing that we can do better, that we are a civilized society. We can all sit down, talk and figure out how we want to live in the future.

To me, it’s interesting too that this is the first probably global event that’s impacted us. That draws into what you’re talking about. It unifies people around the globe of saying, “We’re all impacted by this.” How many people are feeling the same thing as we’re isolated and stuck at home? Either people that have lost their jobs or people that are fearful of losing their jobs or people that are in this place of like, “What am I doing? What is this all about right now?”

Also, we realized another thing. When you solve a problem locally, it helps. It’s huge. No doubt about it. It’s great when you build a hospital in Africa or you do something locally. It’s wonderful. We also see the big picture and we see that the world’s not changing. We still have kids that are hungry and don’t have water. We still see a lack of all kinds of needs in certain parts of the country. We understand that we need to change things globally. With the technology that we have, with the scientists that we have, with everything that we have in this world, we can definitely make a global change where people live like they’re supposed to where they have medical needs, water, food. It shouldn’t be a problem. We have all that wonderful technology that is thanks to our scientists was already developed. We need to get it out there to all.

Climate change is going to affect everyone at some point. Click To Tweet

I’m sure you both have seen some of the pictures that have been put up, that picture in India that was then versus now. The picture then, you can’t even see the buildings. Now it’s crystal clear in terms of all of the pollution that’s gone because we’re not all driving around and the factories are closed. There were so many examples of that now in terms of our impact on the Earth. Now that we’re all stopping, things are improving.

That’s a great example to see how people do affect the ecology, but we also have another program that does climate control. What we have learned from many scientists that we interviewed through Zoom, we are going through a lot of cycles and we know that cycles existed a long time ago. We know it was cold and it was hot. We are approaching one of the cycles based on my understanding where if you don’t do anything right now as humanity, we might not be able to survive with rapid climate change. For some countries around the globe, the climate change is so real. Years ago, we didn’t have climate refugees. That concept didn’t exist. Now every day, we have climate refugees, people that go into other countries. As a society, how do we make sure when we become climate refugees and not that country is accepting us and say, “Yes, I want you. Come in. I have food for you. I have shelter for you. Let’s work it out. Let’s work together.” Our mind is always thinking, “It’s never going to happen to me. Somewhere else, not me.” In reality, what we see around the globe, it’s going to affect all of us at some point.

We’re in one of those situations right now. Most people think that the virus that’s out there, it’s not going to affect me. It’s going to affect somebody else. Nobody thinks they’re the one that is going to become sick. It’s going to be somebody else that’s going to do it. Maybe I don’t need to do anything. We realize that we all need to do something or it’s not going to get better. There’s something that sticks in my mind based on this conversation from both of you when we’re talking about how we go through the house, the job, the planting the trees. This is what we’ve been sold. People end up saying, “What else?” I look at a lot of the research that’s out there in regard to what makes people happy. We found that it’s not money. To a point, it is, but that’s not the end. One of the things that keeps coming up as a theme is purpose, which hits directly on what both of you were talking about here. When there’s a purpose beyond ourselves, we feel more engaged in terms of what we’re doing.

There has to be a purpose. There has to be a goal. They have to be something to strive towards as well. We talked to many people around the world and they said that money is not the answer. There are people that have tons of money but are unfortunately unhappy. When you have this purpose and you have this common goal, then you know that people can do so much. You even know from your personal, for myself, once I have that goal, I know that I can do so much. Together we can change a lot of things. Here’s also the goal of the Creative Society. First, is to find out whether or not people want to live in a creative society, whether or not they want to see the change in the world and how they envision it? What would they like?

Do they want free high-quality healthcare, free education all over the world that’s high quality that is allowed for everybody? Do they want only to work four hours a week, four days a week and spend the rest of their time with their family, on their hobbies, on self-development, or anything? As we talked on our past show, people are only productive four hours a day at work. The rest of the time they spend either by the coffee or talking to the person that works next to them. We know that in order to increase productivity, all the studies do show that four hours is enough. Also, Allatra provides a platform for all the people to discuss these concepts and the model of the creative societies and all spheres of human life.

LFL 96 | A Better Global Society

A Better Global Society: The central problem of modern mankind is the consumer format of society.


We want to find ways of uniting all of mankind and create conditions for every person to become an active participant in the life of the society. These are the things we’re working on right now to see what we can do and how people want to live. Another thing we found is that it’s important to talk about those things. If we do not talk about how we envision Creative Society, if we do not show positive examples, then. unfortunately, everybody lives the same way. There’s no change. Once we start talking about it and a person realizes that, “If they’re talking about it, then it’s possible. Maybe I can share my understandings or I can share my ideas.” When people start talking about it and the word starts going out and we can see the big, huge picture and we have a common goal, then we know what to strive towards. That’s the purpose. Once we have that purpose, we can definitely do a lot.

What do you think is the greatest challenge for both of you right now?

The greatest challenge is it’s within us. The greatest challenge is listening to your mind that’s saying, “Don’t do this. Don’t call this person. Don’t talk to this person. Do something else. Wash the dishes. Do this. Go do that.” In reality, you understand that something is pulling you away from the bigger picture because you never know by talking to Patrick what seeds you plant at that point. Patrick might talk to his wife and have a conversation about periods of society. All of a sudden, the kid hears it and says, “Yes, I’m on board. I want this.” We’ll all come out from this quarantine and all of a sudden, everybody’s talking about it. Yesterday, it didn’t exist. Now it’s our reality and we all talk about it. We don’t have negative news and CNN starts talking about how we could split all the resources that we already have around the globe and make everybody healthy. How do we make sure everybody can travel safely? How do we make sure everybody has a salary that they can afford a living? How do we do that? Come on, people. We are all in this one boat together. We know that because of the virus, COVID proved that no one is immune to anything. My biggest challenge is self-motivation and it all comes from them. It’s either I’m stopping something or I’m going forward

You hit on a great point there. We talk ourselves out of a lot of stuff. I don’t know if you’re familiar. Mel Robbins wrote a book called The 5 Second Rule. She talks about her own life experience but said, “Anytime I waited more than five seconds to do something that maybe was of my comfort zone, I talked myself out of doing it.” It was either it wasn’t the right time. I was too busy. It was a stupid idea. How many of us do that? We say, “I can’t make a difference. Nobody’s going to be able to listen to me. It’s not worth it.” We talk ourselves out of that. Also, you bring up another great point, Olga. We answer the questions that we ask ourselves. If we focus on why something can’t be done, we will find enough reasons why it can’t be done. I agree. The opposite is true with that as well. If we look to this and say not, “Why can’t we do it,” but, “How are we going to get this thing done,” it changes our focus.

What I enjoy being a volunteer for a lot of international public movement is that we redefined in how we run. It is a nonprofit. We don’t take any donations. We don’t turn any type of money around. No one is getting any salaries anywhere. If people don’t want to do something, they’ll do it. If people don’t want to do something, then it’s not going to get done. This is what I enjoy because I have been part of some of the nonprofits. We all understand that it’s set up as a business and someone’s getting a nice salary. Someone is doing that. Volunteers are coming in for a couple of hours, but this makes the whole humanity part present because there is no one that’s getting paid. Everybody’s volunteering their time. Everyone is using their best talents. The best thing is we teach each other how to do video edits, do live broadcasts, take interviews, use Photoshop, use other programs so that we can come up with content. We can put together conferences that are global and that are affecting many people around the world.

With purpose and a common goal, people can do so much. Click To Tweet

With that said, if somebody wants to volunteer that’s reading, how do they do that? If somebody says, “I want to get involved in this. How do I do that?”

There’s an email address on our website You can send us an email and we will gladly talk to you and see what project you would like to participate in or what you would like to do. As Olga said, we do teach. If somebody always wanted to do voiceovers or video montage, then we would gladly teach you how to do that or anything else. We have business professionals or business owners that love to be behind the camera. That’s what they always wanted to do or they wanted to do video montage and they come to Allatra. They are wearing a suit at work and they’re a business owner and they come here and they are standing behind the camera or taking interviews or anything like that.

People truly do what they love to do. Also, you said the biggest challenge, as Olga said, the most important thing is to understand that you have a responsibility, to take that responsibility upon yourself and not put it on others. That also is a big part of what we do. We say, “He’s the one that needs to do it. They’re going to do it. It’s their fault.” We never think of ourselves. We never think, “Maybe I should be doing this. Maybe I should see how I can solve it.” Taking responsibility is crucial.

Say I wanted to join as a volunteer, how would I find out what fits for me? Is there a list that I could go to say, “These are the projects, these are the things that are going on or that I could plugin or is there some type of survey that’s done on me to ask me what my interests are?”

We don’t have a database of our volunteers. We don’t collect any information. If someone wants to join, they just join and we’ll add them to the Skype group. We know they exist. They’re all there. There are people, but there’s not an official sign up form. The official sign up form is your own decision of, “I want to do something better for this world. I’m going to do it now and I’m going to take responsibility for it.” That’s what a true socially active volunteer is.

LFL 96 | A Better Global Society

The 5 Second Rule: Transform your Life, Work, and Confidence with Everyday Courage

Somebody contacts us via email. We call them and ask them what they like to do. All our projects are online, so they take a look. Some people are interested in climate, so they can either look for climate news or they want to be a reporter or do anything behind the camera or our Creative Society. There’s a lot of different projects. Whatever they like to do, we’ll let them do. We teach them how to do it if they truly want to. They take responsibility and that’s it.

I love that because it’s a self-motivated volunteer.

We don’t schedule the time when you do volunteer. Sometimes we have our calls at 10:00 PM or something because that’s when the kids went to bed. For some people, they can do things during the day. Some people are in different time zones. Sometimes half of the world is already sleeping and the other half is doing something. It’s very interesting and the communication is so open. You’d be surprised how we have this mindset of everyone is a stranger. There’s no longer everyone is a stranger. Everybody is aiming at the same goal of a creative society. It’s so easy to pick up the phone and talk to a so-called stranger on another side, but you know you’re already connected to them in so many ways than one. It’s awesome. It’s so liberating. It’s like, “This is the world that we all dream of.”

We’ve probably been spoiled in some regard. You guys have been at it far longer than I have. I’ve had the show for a few years. When I look at some of the areas that are listening that are on the other side of the globe, it blows my mind to think we’re all connected. I’ve had conversations with incredible people out of the Netherlands, Australia and France. It’s it blows my mind to think about what’s available to us. As we wrap things up, is there anything that you’d like the readers to act on?

It would be great if anybody has any suggestions, questions, or if anybody wants to share with us their vision of a creative society, a world that they would like to live in, they can send us their email to Also, we would like to invite everybody to a global conference. We had to reschedule it due to the quarantine. It’s going to be on May 15th of 2021. It’s going to be called Creative Society: Ways to Achieve It. We would like to invite anyone that would like to join and talk about creative society. This is going to be a global conference where people from over 180 countries that are going to join via video call. We will talk about ways of how we can live in the future.

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I will tell you I’ve appreciated this. Ever since we did the call, I couldn’t wait to have this interview because I thought what you’re doing and, in the world that we live in right now, it’s so valuable. Thank you for that.

Thank you so much, Patrick.

My two friends, the Olgas, are so inspiring to me because they are focused on looking at approaches that impact all of us as a community on a global level. As I listened to them talk, it is about creating purpose, about being for others. That’s what their whole movement is about. If we all band together, imagine what things can be accomplished when we do that. If you know somebody that you think would be interested in this episode or joining certainly the group Allatra TV, I would encourage you to forward this on. If you haven’t subscribed already, please go ahead and subscribe. It would mean the world to me if you would leave a rating and a comment on this or any other episode. That is how this message continues to get out there about re-imagining leadership in a way that inspires, empowers, and compels others to want to follow our leads as well. Until our next episode, I hope you’re able to go out there and rise above your best.

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